Published By: Communications and Public Outreach
| San Francisco Public Utilities Commission Citizens' Advisory Committee Wastewater Subcommittee MINUTES Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:30 p.m. – 7:30 p.m. 1155 Market Street, 4th Floor |
Members Jennifer Clary (acting chair) Alex Lantsberg (excused absent) Jack Lendvay David Pilpel Laurie J. Schoeman (excused absent) Judy West Staff Liaison: Idil Bereket |
1. Call to order- 5:55 p.m.
2. Roll Call- See above.
SFPUC Staff present – Idil Bereket, Tyrone Jue, Karri Ving, Jignesh Desai, William H. Laws, Mike Brown, Joseph Yew, Karen Hurst
Members of the public – Bill McLaughlin, Josh Shrader, Lurilla Harris
5. Fats, Oil and Grease (FOG) and Biofuel Update
Questions and Comments
* Asked the difference with butter fat.
ANSWER: Right now we are using the beautiful cooking oil.
* Asked whether the program had enough support and authority to hire new staff
ANSWER: There is fantastic support. The program now has a 3rd part-time driver.
* Asked about presentation with American Public Works Association (APWA).
ANSWER: Great.
* Asked to get a copy of the specific outreach piece for “Gigantic 3” from Norcal.
ANSWER: A copy will be provided.
* Asked to get copies of the periodic reports in regards to the CEC Grant.
* Asked if SFPUC considered other sites besides household hazardous waste where people can take stuff.
ANSWER: Yes
* Commented that there will be a bigger presentation on the FOG Ordinance.
ANSWER: More geared towards the Automatic Grease Removal Device.
* Asked about timeline for FOG Ordinance to be introduced.
ANSWER: End of August.
* Asked what 20,000 gallons of FOG per month turns into biofuel before blending
ANSWER: It was 30% from cooking oil with no/little water; with beautiful oil is one-to-one conversion.
Jignesh Desai added that part of the grant requirement is demonstrating 10,000 gallons of trapped grease converted to 3,000 gallons of biodiesel. He added that the construction will start at the end of the year, and production will start 6 months after that. The location will be at Oceanside.
* Asked about the grease trap map.
ANSWER: Map is available on SFGreasecycle.org.
* Asked about cost and benefit for this.
ANSWER: We spend $3.5 million to clean. Starting at the source is already savings. The goal is to be cost-neutral; about $50,000 month. We are selling to biodiesel producers, and the goal is to buy that back with the Master Fueling Contract.
* Asked about large-scale public outreach.
ANSWER: This program has not been done before. It’s very slow and gradual. We talk to community groups and advocates; word of mouth is big. We will not have a big rollout yet.
No action was taken.
3. Minutes – June ‘08 Regular Meeting minutes have been approved with the following changes:
Bullet under Questions and Comments for agenda item 7 changes to read as follows:
Asked Steven Smith to provide a one-page summary of the EIR process related to the Master Plan.
4. Public Comment - No public comments
6. Rate Study Scope – Bill Laws did a presentation on the rate study scope and talked about scheduling and a little bit about selection of consulting.
Questions and Comments
* Asked if the rate study scope went in front of the Commission
ANSWER: It went on July 7.
* Asked about some details on the Water and Wastewater Capacity Charge:
ANSWER: A new water capacity charge went into effect since January 2008.
* Asked about the amount collected so far.
ANSWER: $3.6 million assessed so far in wastewater for Fiscal Year ending ’08 and $104,000 for water in six months.
* Asked whether capacity charges were restricted for capital projects.
ANSWER: Yes.
* Asked to get the summary charges of what has been collected in the near future
* Asked to get the 10-year spreadsheet.
* Commented that he was disappointed about the failure of the 3-tier rate structure, that he was in favor of the 1st tier being very cheap and that it was vital to have a more vigorous rate structure. Added that 80% of most home basements have no permit, and it should be up to DBI & SFPUC to figure this out at sales.
* Asked whether there SFPUC monitored individual meter use when the bill is high.
ANSWER: Yes.
* Commented that he hoped that the new billing system would get more functionality.
* Commented that stormwater and LID are listed separately but part of the same thing.
ANSWER: Yes.
* Asked about flow factor.
ANSWER: Recommended that the flow factor be revisited every 5 years.
* Asked about cleanout on the wastewater side.
ANSWER: The customer is responsible all the way to the main sewer.
ANSWER: “What maintenance is” is vague.
No action was taken.
7. Staff Updates: SF Sewer System Master Plan and Wastewater Enterprise - Tyrone Jue gave an update as follows:
* We are moving forward with the Digester Task Force. We are planning on having a breakfast on August 16 or 23 at the Southeast Plant. Primary focus is District 10, but will invite others as well
* We just issued a Southeast Community Newsletter
* We will have a Green Fair on October 11 for our programs such as Compost Giveaway, Rainwater Harvesting, Adopt-A-Catch basin, SFGreasecycle, GoSolarSF, etc.
Questions and Comments
* Asked about the Master Plan process.
ANSWER: Once it goes into EIR, it will take about 2-2.5 years. The first major project would be the digesters.
* Asked what the subsequent project would be to take care of combined sewer overflows.
ANSWER: Cayuga Diversion project, 7 years out.
8. Comments, suggestions and requests for future agenda items by members of the Wastewater Subcommittee, staff and general public.
* Surplus Property Presentation could be a topic for a meeting
Jennifer Clary mentioned that there would be a presentation on that subject at the full CAC, and would think about it then.
* Combined sewer overflows and timeline / improvements of the Master Plan.
* Greg Braswell’s mapping of Lower Mission Creek
* Sludge Tour, Sludge Update.
9. Adjourned - 7:31 p.m.



